Can anyone help? – further updated (24/01/2017).

CoymayI’ve been sent a copy of a photo of City’s promotion winning squad from 1975/76 that I’d never seen before and asked if I could identify a couple of players in it. I hope the picture is clear enough for you to see everyone because the players we need help on are both in the front row – the first is sat on the left next to Peter Sayer and the other is sat second right between Gilo and Brian Attley. I’m fairly sure that the first player is Martin Morgan, a young midfielder who was released at the end of that season after making one appearance (as a sub in a Welsh Cup tie against Sully in January 76), but I’ve not got a clue who the second one is – Joe Durrell was someone who played a game or two for us on the wing while on from West Ham that season, but I’ve seen a photo of him and it’s not him (this bloke looks like a centreback or striker to me) .

Can anyone put me out of my misery by identifying the two players?

1975-76

 

 

Firstly, a thank you to the people who have got in touch regarding the picture above – I think we are getting there slowly!

The first thing to say is that when I said the player sat next to Peter Sayer, I meant the one on his right, not Tony Evans. As for the other mystery player (between Gilo and Brian Attley), there have been two names mentioned – the first was John McClelland, I thought this was a fair shout, but the presence of Adrian Alston in the picture means that it must have been taken after October 1975 (Alston made his debut in a 4-3 win over Chesterfield on Halloween night) and McClelland was released at the end of the 74/75 season.

The other player mentioned was Tony Villars. Now, as someone who made 13 appearances during that season, Villars would, surely, appear in the picture and, initially, I thought he was stood between Keith Pontin and Derek Showers. Speaking as someone who was a bit too young to really appreciate Greg Farrell’s performance in the famous 5-3 relegation shoot out win over Middlesbrough in 1966, I’ve always thought that Villars produced possibly the greatest individual showing in an important game I’ve seen from a City player when he almost single handedly kept us up with his display against Palace in 1974 – there have been occasional votes for a Cardiff City cult hero and Villars doesn’t even get a mention, but he was a truly mesmerising dribbler of the ball when he was on his game and he’s my cult hero if no one else’s!

Therefore, it’s embarrassing to have to admit that I’m now 99% certain I was wrong about Villars in this picture and it’s even more embarrassing to say that I’m fast coming around to the view that it is him who is sat between Gilo and Attley! As I hinted at originally, the second mystery man always struck me as being too big to be Tony Villars – if you study that front row, you would think the mystery man is as tall as Mike England and there’s no way that is true of Villars.

However, if you then look at Tony Evans (who was five ten at the very most), he looks as tall as England as well. Richard Hoad made the point that how a player is sitting could affect how tall they look – e.g. Evans is sat up straight, while England is leaning further forward than anyone else. Therefore, the mystery man might not be the six foot two giant that I thought he was and, if so, him being Tony Villars becomes more likely as far as I’m concerned – that said, he still seems much more of a “solid citizen” than I remember Villars being (perhaps that may explain why he never really kicked on from his great end to 73/74 which saw him capped by Wales almost entirely on the back of his Palace showing).

The trouble with saying it’s Villars between Gilo and Attley is that it creates a third mystery man between Pontin and Showers. but I believe Richard may have helped solve that one when he suggested that it was Gerry Byrne next to Sayer – the Scottish defender who played about fifteen times for the first team from 1977 to 1979 signed for City in April 1975, so he was at the club when the photo was taken, even though he had not played a first team match at the time.

Here is a photo taken some time in 1978 of the City squad (Jimmy Andrews was sacked in November 78)

ccfc 1978and it looks to me as if the player on the left of the front row is the same one who is stood between Showers and Pontin in the other photo. Gerry Byrne would definitely have been a first team squad member at the time of the second photo and I think it’s a reasonable assumption to think that it’s him sat next to Rod Thomas, so, for me, the third mystery man is Gerry Byrne – then again, he also looks quite like the bloke next to Sayer, but, whichever one he is, I’m now totally and utterly convinced that Byrne appears somewhere in the original picture!

Richard also mentions someone called Steve Wilson as a candidate – that name means nothing to me and I’m inclined to stick to my original opinion that it is Martin Morgan next to Sayer, solely because he had very likely played for the first team at the time of the photo, but it looks like I got a few things wrong originally and so I don’t think my opinion counts for much on this subject!

Any more opinions and/or suggestions will be very welcome.

Nearly two years after this piece was updated, David Harries has been in touch and has suggested a new identity for the player between Pontin and Showers – he says that it looks like Martyn Morris who was originally from the Neath area and he has provided a couple of pictures which appear to back up his claim.

Here are the pictures David sent and he’s put an arrow identifying Martyn – I must say it does look very like the mystery man to me – see what you think.

Looking at the second picture in particular, it certainly looks like the player we tried to identify nearly two years ago – got there in the end I think, thanks very much David!

 

 

 

 

 

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Draw inches City further away from drop zone, but same issues remain.

CoymayScott Malone’s seventh minute cross is misdirected by a foot or two or Kenwyne Jones doesn’t quite get the right contact on his header and City don’t score the goal that gave them the lead at Hillsborough against Sheffield Wednesday for more than an hour before having to eventually settle for the 1-1 draw that ended a run of four consecutive defeats. Those are the sort of fine margins that mean that the wolf has been kept from Russell Slade and his teams’s door for a few days at least.

Without Jones’ goal, from one of only two on target efforts by City, yesterday’s match would have panned out like so many others in the horror run that has seen us win just one league match in our last ten. There was the usual inability to maintain a decent level of performance for anything like the whole ninety minutes as a opening half that might not be able to be described as dominant, but relatively untroubled would do, was followed up with a second spell thats tone was set in it’s first fifteen seconds as the home side hit the woodwork.

City were able to show what I suppose has to be seen as one of the few strengths this team has in that second half as they, yet again, absorbed an awful lot of pressure to emerge relatively unscathed – Hillsborough, can thus be added to Ewood Park, Craven Cottage, whatever Pride Park is called these days, the AMEX Stadium and the Valley in the list of grounds where we have got away with a draw despite having to come through spells where we were completely overrun in the middle of the park.

The last ten words of the previous sentence in many ways say all you need to know about Cardiff City during 2014/15. It appears that no matter who the manager picks (and four of them have had a go at it now!), no matter what formation he uses and no matter who he signs, we just cannot get enough possession of the ball to ever get into a position where it feels like we are in control of the game – twenty nine matches played now and I can only think of maybe three (the home encounters with Huddersfield, Ipswich and Forest) where I have felt confident we were going to win going into the final ten minutes – in the last of them, a late goal for our opponents meant we were clinging on desperately to the three points at the end.

In his early days at the club, our manager talked about stability and the need to build partnerships. With another change of formation yesterday, that seems an awful long way time ago now, but there is some evidence, hardly compelling mind, to suggest that we might have home and away formations these days. Recent home matches have often seen us use a 4-2-3-1 system whereby a striker is supported by two wingers and a number 10, but yesterday there was a return to the 4-4-2 with a midfield diamond that was used at Norwich and Middlesbrough.

The high ball to Kenwyne Jones often seems to be just about our only attacking option from open play - you can complain about his lack of mobility and occasional lack of desire, but I dread to think where we'd be without his goals this season.*

The high ball to Kenwyne Jones often seems to be just about our only attacking option from open play – you can complain about his lack of mobility and occasional lack of desire, but I dread to think where we’d be without his goals this season.*

If 4-2-3-1 offers attacking width aplenty, the same cannot be said of our “away” formation especially when it was Craig Noone (who was the subject of a bid from Norwich on transfer deadline day) and Kadeem Harris who made way for newcomers Eoin Doyle and Conor McAleny – I’m showing my age here but my first reaction when hearing the team for yesterday was to think of the name given to describe England’s 1966 World Cup winning team, the wingless wonders.

As it turned out, the two new boys were among our better players, Doyle missing a good chance to mark his debut with a goal, but doing well overall with his industry and movement, while McAleny played a leading part in the creation of the goal and, judging by Russell Slade’s post match comments has already impressed the manager with his quick feet. From the very little I’ve seen of McAleny, I’m hoping that he is the natural number 10 we’ve lacked so far this season as all the others who have had a go at playing there have done is prove that it’s not a position they are at home in – now, all we need is a natural in the sitting midfielder/Makelele role and we might be getting somewhere!

One of the other things Doyle and McAleny seem to have added is a bit more attacking pace – something that was desperately required with the decision to leave out our two quickest forward thinking players. This should have offered the opportunity to hit Wednesday with effective counter attacks as the home side chased an equaliser and that’s why it was so disappointing to hear the manager talk about us not having the composure required to exploit such opportunities when they arose.

This brings me back to what I’m pretty sure is going to be my overriding feeling about this squad when I recall it in the future – just how poor it is when you consider how much it cost to put together and to pay in wages. Russell Slade had taken to saying, very often, in his media appearances that we are in a period of transition – this is an approach often used by under fire managers in a bid to deflect attention away from poor results and performances, but, to be fair, it’s also true this time.

New signing Eoin Doyle misses his big chance to mark his Cardiff debut with a goal, but he and fellow newcomer Conor McAleny probably did enough to keep their places for Tuesday's match with Brighton which may mean a return to 4-4-2 in home as well as away games.*

New signing Eoin Doyle misses his big chance to mark his Cardiff debut with a goal, but he and fellow newcomer Conor McAleny probably did enough to keep their places for Tuesday’s match with Brighton which may mean a return to 4-4-2 in home as well as away games.*

However, it’s felt like we were in team going through a transitional phase for about eighteen months now as players arrive and depart at a bewildering rate and one of the downsides of this is that those who have been here all along can be either ignored or pushed to the back of the queue. I’m thinking here in particular of Matt Connolly, a player who I still maintain should have been a regular starter this season. Granted, he’s not been at his best lately (but who has?) and giving away a slightly dodgy penalty within minutes of coming on for the injured Lee Peltier isn’t going to help his cause, but this is a player whose recent career path has seen him fighting and winning promotion battles for Championship clubs and yet he’s now, at an age when he should be approaching the best years of his career, reduced to being a bit part player in a team being sucked towards the relegation zone.

This constant shuffling of the pack in the apparent belief that every one who is at another team has to be better than what we have got here already is a sure fire sign of a club lacking an identity or coherent plan – I daresay all of these recent “periods of transition” were entered into with a clear aim in mind, but then everything soon gets ripped up as it’s decided we have to start all over again.

Although he will be staying at the club in an advisory capacity, yesterday’s game gave Wednesday fans the opportunity to say goodbye to owner and Chairman Milan Mandaric following the takeover by a Thai based consortium in the last week and it was interesting to hear what manager Stuart Gray had to say on the matter in his post match press conference;-

“When you’ve heard the chairman speaking, he’s handing it over to proper football people who want to get into the Premier League, like I do and the players do.”

As a Cardiff fan, I read those words I’ve highlighted and think “if only, if only” – it’s not the sole cause of all that has gone wrong in the last season and a half, but I strongly believe that the outlook would be a lot healthier for the club if our owner overcame his apparent mistrust of “proper football people” and got at least one of them in to act as a conduit between dug out and Boardroom.

* pictures courtesy of http://www.walesonline.co.uk/

 

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