Seven decades of Cardiff City v Stoke City matches.

With thirty points still to play for, it’s a bit early to take about “must win” games yet, but City could really do with a victory over Stoke tomorrow night. With just three league wins in 2021, Stoke’s Play Off hopes have taken a bit of a nose dive lately and, realistically, tomorrow night’s match is a must win occasion for them. Here’s seven Stoke related questions dating back to the sixties with the answers to be posted on here on Wednesday.

60s. Born in a place described as follows in an 1887 Gazetteer of the British Isles,

“It is a fairly prosperous town, with tanning and currying, mfrs. of boots and shoes, stays, brushes, agricultural implements, and some articles of clothing. It has a handsome town hall, a cattle market and a grammar school. Many Roman relics have been found in the vicinity.”

this forward came to the attention of Stoke while playing for his local team when their manager at the time was involved in a telephone conversation about a fine forward he had found who his club had told him they couldn’t afford. When the Stoke manager consulted colleagues about this player, he decided to buy him without having seen him play and the player signed despite having to take a pay cut. His one appearance for Stoke against City came shortly after signing for them and resulted in a narrow win for his team. Taking his chance when an injury to a first team regular got him a start, he never lost his place and was breaking club records within weeks. His subsequent sale to Yorkshire birds came as a shock and, although not matching his achievements at Stoke, he still had a decent record during his three years at his new club, but a new manager decided he was over the top at twenty eight and so Stoke resigned him at a cut price fee and he proceeded to prove his previous manager wrong over the next six years before a leg break signalled the end of his career – who is he?

70s. Starting off for his home town club, who had worn red and white striped shirts for a very short while in their dim and distant past, this full back made a reputation for himself after breaking into the first team and was eventually sold from one one word club to another for a biggish fee. It didn’t take him too long to establish himself in the first team and was soon the established choice in his position. The next few years were successful ones for him, but a change of manager signalled a decline that his career never really recovered from. Finding his way into the team blocked, first by someone with a City connection and then by a Welshman, he was signed by Stoke, but, once again, a change of manager after a few months worked against him and he stomped off after a season, before later getting caught in blizzard prior to his retirement at just thirty one – internationally, he was a favourite of a caretaker, but can you name him?

80s. Pet grebe and I are forever cutting back on ourselves! (5,7)

90s. This defender is from the same place as one half of a combination that were voted as the ninth best comedy double act ever in a poll of  fellow comedians and comedy insiders in 2005. He clocked up one short of a hundred league appearances for his home town club (there was also a loan move to seaside city to the south during this time) before an unsuccessful stay at a team which could be called tricksters I suppose. Next, he was one of a trio of players from that club (another one was a former City player and the other one was a particularly gangly striker) to be signed by someone, who has worked with the aforesaid comedian, for the team he was working for at that time. When he arrived at a march in a dip. our man was part of the first side from the club to appear at Wembley. Losing his place in the starting line up prompted a move to alliterative nomads and it was after clocking up close to sixty league appearances for them that he signed for Stoke with one of his ninety odd league games for them coming at Ninian Park – he also endeared himself to fans of his new club by scoring against Port Vale. His league career finished with a return to the place he had been on loan at almost a decade earlier – do you know who he is?

00s. He only won two out of his seven encounters with City during this decade while a Stoke player, with four of them ending in defeats – two of which came in a season where he was an ever present for the Potters. He returned to his first club after leaving Stoke and also played for two sides that begin with the letter P. Born in Mile End, he has a sister who has appeared on X Factor – name him.

10s. Name a City striker who made his last appearance for the club in a league game with Stoke during this decade.

20s. Stutter heard at border venue? Who and where?

Answers

60s. Kettering born John Ritchie was signed by Stoke boss Tony Waddington from his home town club despite him never having seen his new centre forward play. Ritchie was a part timer at Kettering and quit his job in a shoe factory, taking a pay cut in the process to sign for the Potteries club. Ritchie played a small part in Stoke’s promotion run in during 1962/63 and started in a 1-0 win over City in April 1963, but it was when an injury to Dennis Viollet gave him an opportunity in the First Division that Ritchie’s career really took off. Scoring twice in a win at Bolton, scored fifteen times in his next nine matches breaking a club record in the process and his goals were instrumental in getting Stoke to their first ever Cup Final in 1964 when they were beaten by Leicester in the League Cup. With thirty goals in his first full season as a full time pro and twenty nine in the following one, it came as a real surprise to see him sold to Sheffield Wednesday in 1966 for £80,000. Stoke bought him back in 1969 for a bargain £28,000 and he top scored in three of his subsequent seasons with them before a broken leg in 1974 signaled an end to a career which had seen him score one hundred and seventy six goals in his three hundred and forty seven league appearances for them.

70s. Alec Lindsay started off with his home town club Bury, before signing for Liverpool for £67,000 in 1969. Rated highly by Bill Shankly, Lindsay was Liverpool’s first choice left back through the early seventies, but, when the manager retired in the summer of 1974, his replacement, Bob Paisley, soon selected future City manager Phil Neal in front of him and, when Neal was moved to right back, Paisley preferred to sign Joey Jones as his left back, rather than reinstating Lindsay. Lindsay left Liverpool for Stoke in 1977 and was in their side which lost 2-0 at Ninian Park in November of that year, but when George Eastham was sacked as manager half way through the season and replaced by another future City boss in Alan Durban, Lindsay once again found himself surplus to requirements and left after less than a year seeing out the rest of his career in North America with the Oakland/Edmonton Stompers (they moved cities during Lindsay’s time with them) and Toronto Blizzard. Lindsay won four caps for England all awarded him by Joe Mercer who was a temporary England manager after Alf Ramsey’s resignation.

80s. Winger Peter Beagrie, apparently used to drive the strikers at the clubs he played for mad by beating his full back and then cutting back to try to do it again just as they were making their run for the cross they were expecting.

90s. Nicky Mohan, like Bob Mortimer of Reeves and Mortimer fame, hails from Middlesbrough and made ninety nine times for them (he was also loaned to Hull) before signing for Leicester City. Mohan, Gavin Ward and Ian Ormondroyd were all signed for Bradford City by Chris Kamara, before Mohan moved on to Wycombe Wanderers and then Stoke (he was in their team which won 2-1 in Cardiff in October 1999), before ending his league career with another spell at Hull.

00s. Darel Russell had two spells with Norwich City sandwiching his stay at Stoke – he was in the Stoke teams beaten 3-1 and 3-2 by City in 03/04 within the space of a month and played every game for them during that season. Russell also has Preston and Portsmouth among his former clubs and his sister, Sharlene was in the band Miss Frank, who, apparently, appeared in the sixth series of X Factor.

10s. Omar Bogle came on as a sub in City’s 1-0 win over Stoke in November 2019 and never played again for us.

20s. James Chester – Stutter is James’ first album.

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Cardiff City are beaten at the death as gap to top six widens to seven points.

Cardiff City’s eleven match unbeaten run under Mick McCarthy came to an end in very unfortunate circumstances today as Watford scored a soft goal in the fourth minute of added time at end of the match to snatch a 2-1 win as the weird stat which says that two goals or below from us in a home game means that we do not win – in fact, as this eighth Cardiff City Stadium defeat of the season suggests, we usually lose.

City went into the game with a home win over Derby that was even more convincing than the 4-0 winning margin suggests sandwiched by draws in away matches at Middlesbrough and Huddersfield where luck was on our side.

Now, when a run of six straight wins comes to an end with a draw at the home of a Play Off rival, it’s a bit harsh to be critical of the performance, but we were poor at the Riverside Stadium and not much better last Friday at Huddersfield where a missed penalty enabled us to extend our unbeaten run for a while longer.

So, the momentum of February was showing signs of stalling in March before today and, although I thought we played better than we had done in our last two away games, the indication that we have hit the buffers to some extent grew stronger as we now find ourselves seven points from the top six with two matches to be played before the final international break of the season.

For all of the hurt of losing through a preventable very late goal, I thought Watford’s win was just about deserved. About ten minutes after the coverage of the match on the club website had finished today, they showed a highlights package that was notable for how much of the action took place in our penalty area – when such a notoriously biased source’s highlights reel is so weighted in the other side’s favour, it does tend to tell a story!

Although there was the ever present threat from set pieces from City which led to second half efforts being hooked over the bar by Keiffer Moore and Aden Flint, in truth, Watford seemed to have most difficulty in dealing with long, high balls forward in the first half especially as central defenders and keeper got themselves in a pickle on a few occasions and needed a bit of luck at times to survive.

However, it was noticeable that the City back three, with their distinct height advantage over their opponents were also less commanding than usual when the ball was played high in their direction, so I think it’s probably fair to say that the gusty wind which blew throughout was more of a factor at times than the pictures, which often showed, bright, sunny conditions, suggested.

City were also dangerous for a short while during a positive, purposeful start which saw Josh Murphy and Harry Wilson getting more possession in promising areas than in any other game I can remember, but it didn’t last and from about the fifteen minute mark onwards, the game was like so many under Neil Harris’ management as we struggled to get our game changers into the match.

Murphy especially was prominent for that short while though as a slip by visiting centre back William Troost Ekong allowed him a clear run in on goal which he wasted with a poor touch as he closed in on keeper Daniel Bachmann. Murphy was much more impressive seconds later though when receiving the ball in a similar position, this time he opted to cross low for Moore who would have had a tap in if the ball had reached him, but Francisco Sierralta in trying to intercept turned the cross into his own net from six yards out.

Watford’s away record this season features plenty of draws and goals scored and conceded at a rate of less than one a game, so there was a feeling before kick off that goals would be at a premium and I definitely felt that, if we were to get the three points, it would be by rediscovering the lost art of the 1-0 or 2-1 home win.

Unfortunately, any chance of a victory through the first of those options disappeared within about a minute and a half of our goal as Watford showed their attacking teeth for the first time by working the ball into our penalty area to create a chance which we looked to have snuffed out until the ball broke to captain Nathaniel Chalobah who worked the space for himself in a crowded penalty area to shoot low past Dillon Phillips from about fifteen yards out.

Jason Perry on the club website and Mick McCarthy after the match were disappointed that Chalobah was allowed to get his shot away and that is the sort of attitude you’d expect from ex players, but, as a fan, I always tend towards praising the scorer when a goal is as expertly taken as this one was – even when it’s against my team.

Watford, with Will Hughes an increasingly influential figure while playing in a manner which you’d never see from a member of our current team, were the better side for the rest of the first half as Joao Pedro’s overhead kick was well struck, but flew straight at Phillips and then Ismailia Sarr’s shot got a slight deflection which made Phillips’ sprawling save to turn the ball for a corner all the more impressive.

With Pedro also flicking just over from eight yards out, Watford could feel a bit hard done by to still be level at the break with their often slick passing only emphasising our shortcomings in that area – I usually agree with what Jason Perry says when he is commentating on one of our games, but when he commented during one of the periods where Watford were particularly on top, that we needed to start passing the ball better to break up our opponent’s control, I couldn’t help but blurt out “but, we can’t do that, haven’t you been watching us for the last six months?” – in truth I could have said five years!

To City’s credit, Watford, and Hughes, were unable to move the ball about as effectively after the break, but still, the bulk of the best chances were theirs. Sarr had a header saved by Phillips and blazed wide from six yards when he should at least have got his effort on target and rather like in their previous two draws, this became a game where you were hoping City would get in with their point intact rather than wishing for, or expecting, a winning goal.

It was definitely looking like we could do that and make it to a dozen unbeaten when Sarr got the better of Perry Ng, who had switched to the left as part of a rearrangement when Curtis Nelson went off with a calf injury (Ciaron Brown moved into central defence and Tom Sang was introduced at right wing back), and was brought down right on the corner of the penalty area.

Now, I’ve seen comments to the effect that we didn’t have enough men in our wall for Adam Masina’s free kick, but, for me, what happened next was a goalkeeping error pure and simple by someone who had been faultless before now since he came on at Ashton Gate to replace Alex Smithies nearly two months ago.

Masina’s shot was certainly well hit, but it didn’t have much else to make you think it was going to be a match winner and it wouldn’t have been if Dillon Phillips had stayed on his feet as it would have been headed straight towards him, but, instead, he went to ground and waved a hand at the ball as it flew over and past him. There was an assumption at first from the commentators that there had been a deflection on the shot, but the first replay knocked that on the head – it was an odd one, maybe a combination of that problematic gusty wind and the modern balls tendency to “wobble” in the air did for Phillips?

So, Watford have three points which may prove vital to their top two hopes come May, not the one they looked like getting. I think that they are probably the team most likely to accompany Norwich into the Premier League automatically, but I hope they don’t and I hope they don’t make it up through the Play Offs either because I find the modern version of the club a hard one to like with their never ending turnover of players and managers.

Watford boss Xisco Munoz, who appears to be doing a very good job and has his team playing better football than his predecessor Vladimir Ivic, spoke of the need for “humility” after the game which was a bit rich when you consider the antics of him and his bench when the winning goal went in and of some of his team when the final whistle was blown. Also, for all that Munoz has done to get Watford playing in the last few months, you know that two or three defeats as the pressure mounts in the spring may well see their trigger happy owners act again – City are a far from perfect example of how a modern day club should operate, but, for all of their time in the Premier League since 2015, I wouldn’t want to be a Watford fan these days.

Just a quick word about Academy. This statement, which was issued by the club overnight suggests that the issue of bullying of youngsters didn’t begin and end with the Craig Bellamy issue which caused the club a lot of bad publicity a year or two ago and, although I cannot go into detail because I would be breaking a confidence, it ties in with a few things I’ve heard since the Bellamy issue – let’s hope the club inquiry is a proper and complete one and not a whitewash.

There is no suggestion that matters under review happened at any particular age group at the moment and the Under 18s were, seemingly, unaffected as they got back to winning ways at Leckwith this lunchtime after a couple of defeats by beating Colchester 5-0 with goals from Taz Mayembe, James Carole, Rhys Schwank, Ryan Kavanagh (pen) and Taylor Jones.

Finally, some words about a couple of books. Firstly, regular Feedback column contributor Anthony Mor O’Brien has published a novel recently – in Anthony’s words,

“The story is about Stanley Sharp  (*”Sharp by name and sharp by nature!”)  who, with his friend, come out of the Army just after VE Day. They experience several escapades usually involving the quick mind of Stanley at various venues they reach by motor car with petrol from a government storage facility they have discovered.

Stanley briefly meets a WREN named Gloria Munday in London and some time later encounters her again in her home town of Pontypridd. Various adventures in other parts of South Wales occur (Including Tiger Bay) and are generally historically accurate.” 

The book is called EPONYMOUS SHARP ESCAPADES and can be bought at

Also, the fiftieth anniversary of City’s 1-0 win over Real Madrid on 10 March 1971 passed on Wednesday, so here’s a further reminder of my book Real Madrid and all that which is a review of both that match and the 1970/71 season in which I’m afraid another home defeat by Watford played a major part! Real Madrid and all that can be ordered from;-

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