Still grounds for optimism despite late setback for Wales.

I didn’t get to watch the television coverage of Wales’ 1-1 draw at Cardiff City Stadium because I was among the sort of disappointing crowd (I’ve not seen an official figure for how many were there, but I’d guess it didn’t run to five figures) that is becoming a recurring theme of the 17/18 season at the ground, but a listen to what was being said on Radio Wales at half time and after the match had me thinking that the game was a side issue with the real item up for discussion being Chris Coleman’s future as manager of the national team.

Coleman’s reaction at the final whistle was analysed in minute detail with talk about what his “body language” (why can’t people just say “demeanour” like they used to?) was portraying, but am I out of step with how people are thinking when I say that I cannot really get into this great will he/won’t he debate?

I’d like Coleman to stay and when I was asked whether he would, I replied that my guess was that it was 60/40 in favour of him doing so, but, essentially, my attitude is he’ll either stay or go and there’s nothing I can do to influence that decision one way or another – that being the case, I’d prefer to discuss the two football games Wales elevens played yesterday.

Well, as far as the senior team is concerned, that word “elevens” was not the best one for me to use because the match with Panama was the sort of friendly where the second half gets disrupted by a stream of substitutions which usually means that the moments to remember in such matches tend to come in the first half when it resembles what I’d call a proper game.

Last night saw Wales make six substitutions and Panama five (it felt like more!), but, to be fair, I feel the match kept the crowd’s interest more than is usually the case under such circumstances.

If that opinion is correct, then I suspect the reason it is so is down to the experimental nature of the Welsh team. On Friday, three youngsters (Ben Woodburn, Ethan Ampadu and David Brooks) were thrown on for the last half an hour into a difficult situation with Wales a goal down to an impressive French side in Paris in a game where they had very much been second best.

While it would be pushing it to say that their introduction (it was Ampadu and Brooks’ debut appearance for the senior team) transformed the match, it would be true that Wales looked a better side with them on the pitch than when they weren’t there.

Therefore, with Bale out and Ramsey returning to Arsenal (to be replaced by a thirty three year old Andrew Crofts), I think it’s probably fair to say that what selling power a friendly with Panama, coming so soon after another World Cup qualification miss, had was down to an interest in seeing how the young trio would perform from the start they has been promised beforehand.

The answer was that all three were at the heart of an impressive Welsh opening to proceedings – Woodburn has the biggest reputation currently, but, although not playing poorly, he was probably the quietest of the three. Ampadu patrolled the area in front of our back four with an authority and presence that belied his seventeen years, with that inexperience only showing perhaps in a somewhat rash challenge which earned him an early yellow card, but I liked the vision of some of his passing and the quick feet he showed on occasions – on this evidence, he’ll be a fixture in the Wales team for a decade and more, always assuming he confirms his allegiance to Wales by playing in a competitive fixture soon.

The same proviso applies to Brooks who was the BBC’s nomination for Man of the Match. The competition for places in the position Brooks operates best in is more intense when compared to the defensive midfield area that Ampadu operates in (in saying that, I wouldn’t rule out the Chelsea youngster playing more games for Wales as a centreback than as a Makelele/Matic type midfielder), so he may not be the “fixture” that I feel his younger team mate will be, but he has really impressed me as a confident, skillful and effective operator out wide every time I’ve seen him this season.

With Tom Lawrence also starting the match in a bright and effective manner, there was a vibrancy about much of our early attacking play that we have not seen from a Wales team for some time, but I’m afraid that, once again, things tended to flounder somewhat when Sam Vokes became involved.

Vokes, who scored the winner at Southampton in Burnley’s last game, has become a pretty effective performer at Premier League level in the last year or two, but he is one of those many players who look so much better when playing for his club as opposed to his country. His great goal against Belgium in that never to be forgotten Euro 2016 Quarter Final shows how effective he can be, but, generally, he looks a bit like a fish out of water in a Welsh team that isn’t really set up to play to his strengths – nevertheless, last night when we did look for him in the air, Vokes’ influence, as it often is in a Welsh shirt, was minimal.

Sadly, I had no confidence at all in Vokes finding the net from the penalty he took just before half time after Dave Edwards was bought down for what was a pretty obvious spot kick. Credit to visiting keeper Penodo for his save, but it was one of of those penalties hit at just the right height for a goalkeeper to think he should be saving if he goes the right way.

Vokes was replaced at half time by Tom Bradshaw, while the switch at the same time of Ben Davies for former City Academy member Tom Lockyer to give the Bristol Rovers man a first cap offered proof that Coleman saw the match as an exercise in giving some of his squad members a chance, as opposed to a fixture that had to be won at all costs.

Lockyer didn’t do badly at all on his first taste of international football and the same could be said about midfielder Lee Evans (currently on loan at Wigan from Wolves) and wingers Marley Watkins (Norwich) and Ryan Hedges (Barnsley) who both had their moments in their first twenty five minutes or so of international action –  the introduction of the veteran Crofts for Ampadu rather went against the spirit of the evening and, although the Scunthorpe man made his contribution, I’d rather have seen Chris Maxwell getting a debut  for a few minutes in place of Danny Ward as our sixth change.

Hardly surprisingly given all of the changes, Wales weren’t as fluid after the break as they had been at times in the first half, but the game still had a watchable quality to it and the home side were able to get a lead that I thought they deserved as reward for the overall edge they enjoyed for the ninety minutes when Lawrence sprinted down the left touchline, cut inside and fired fiercely across Penodo with his right foot into the corner of the net.

Panama always offered solid resistance and, on an individual basis, their players produced moments of high skill, but, being honest, I couldn’t see where a goal was coming from for them. Wales survived a couple of free kicks in potentially dangerous areas as the match went into added time, but they looked home and dry until Panama came up with a high quality move and finish in the ninety third minute which rather punctured the feelgood factor around the ground.

Wales forced one last corner, but could do nothing with it and so had to settle for a draw. However, when you consider that the five matches played (four of them competitive) beforehand by Wales sides during this international break had produced five defeats, I suppose we should be grateful for small mercies.

There was a draw to for the Under 21s as well who followed up their loss to Bosnia at Bangor on Friday with a 0-0 draw with group leaders Romania at the same venue yesterday evening. I watched the first half of this game on S4C before leaving for the seniors match and left thinking that Wales, who had started the game well, but had come under increasing pressure as the half went on, were, probably, heading for another defeat against opponents that, apparently, had eight or nine full internationals in their starting line up. So, I was both surprised and pleased to learn that the match had finished as it did.

However, that feeling was to change when I discovered that Romania had two players red carded and then it felt like a great opportunity to make up ground lost in losing two of their first four games in the qualfiying group had been wasted by a Welsh team which, again, had City’s Cameron Coxe and Mark Harris in the starting line up.

Unfortunately, on Monday Wales Under 19s made it three defeats from three in their mini qualifying competition being held in Turkey for the European Championships, with another single goal margin of defeat against Kazakhstan – this time by 3-2.

So, two draws and five defeats from seven matches hardly makes for a successful third international break of the season, but, at least, if, as I suggested in my piece on the France match, two or three of our players in the late twenties/early thirties age brackets are beginning to show signs of wear and tear on the International stage, three of our younger players (as well as a few others within the squad) have taken the opportunity they were given to suggest that they can come in and do a good job for Wales as we now turn to trying to ensure qualification for a second successive Euros Finals competition.

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4 Responses to Still grounds for optimism despite late setback for Wales.

  1. Anthony O'Brien says:

    Ampadu was the best player on the pitch last night. Thank goodness he’s now committed to Wales.

  2. HarryKirtley'sGhost says:

    I watched the game – unaware of the result – at 3am. I had recorded it on BBC2 Wales.
    I had watched the game in Dublin in real time…I guess I sensed that the pressure would prove too much for ROI. But nothing made me expect that kind of demolition job…and it was not all down to nerves.
    It was down to an astute manager, who made Ireland’s Martin O’Neill and Wales’s Chris Coleman appear like amateurs, when it came to tactical nous.
    So I was delighted that the Danes won, and also – perhaps a bit shamefacedly – that the slightly thuggish Panamanians got their last gasp equaliser.
    My support for the Danes did not stem from the fact that I live in a town founded by a Dane called Grim (the suffix “by” meaning “the settlement of”), but because of an irrational hostility to the ROI soccer team (though interestingly I have no aversion to the Irish rugby team, and was positively rooting for the Northern Ireland team’s heroic efforts in their second leg in Basel).
    My pleasure in seeing my country thwarted at the death, is far less complicated…I am highly sceptical of Cookie’s motives. So I did not want his possible last game to read on his CV as “victory over an opponent who has qualified for next year’s World Cup finals”.

    He is ostensibly stringing the Welsh public along with his delayed answer as to whether he will sign a new contract, by saying it is all about doing his best for his staff: to have some of them employed full time. I note that this list includes a psychologist.
    What …?
    Thou canst not be serious, Cookie…!! Full time …? You are having a laugh. What would Brian Clough say of such modish nonsense…? He would doubtless say that the blinking MANAGER should be the psychologist. Crikey the job only involves CC working 3 days a month on average.
    You could not make it up. What next…? A full-time …priest…?!
    If this head-reader is agreed to by the FAW, then I suggest that they do not employ a psychologist, but a PSYCHIATRIST …but to work on them, the FAW. Not the playing squad.
    And as for Mr Coleman: he is a very personable chap who one senses on one level loves national fame, and having all that free time to socialise instead of work. But one senses also that it is not out of the question that if Everton do not land the Watford manager, they might come for him with a £3m a year offer. And that he would take in a heartbeat.
    It does not suit him to sign just yet.
    Let’s hope the estimable Watford manager stays where he is.

    As for the game last night… yes Paul, you and AMO are right. Ampadu played very well.

    But the boy Brooks…oh my dear aunt…!! The real deal. What a talent.

    He has it all. Notice how he has one thing in common with Neymar, who I also saw a bit of last night.

    They both positively GLIDE across the turf: both are magnificently elegant athletes. Brooks is a superstar in the making…and Ampadu not far behind. And the boy Woodburn too will have a very good career, methinks.

  3. The other Bob Wilson says:

    Thanks both for your replies. Anthony, having now seen Ampadu play, as opposed to watching the odd You Tube video showing a few seconds here and there, I can see what all of the fuss is about. Dai, I don’t think the Danish manager pulled any tactical masterstrokes, he probably couldn’t believe his luck when Martin O’Neill (someone who I usually think is more tuned in tactically than most in his profession) reacted as if there were only ten minutes left, instead of forty five, when he went for broke by withdrawing his two deep lying midfielders for two more attack minded operators – Denmark had showed they were the more talented team in the first half, but it’s often the case that Ireland face sides with more ability than them, yet they often find a way to overcome them. O’Neill’s reaction was so unlike him and the way his team approached the second half was so unlike them.
    Sorry, but I’ll always want Wales to win no matter what might or might not be going on in the manager’s head at the time – as I said in my piece, I can’t get too worked up either way about what happens to Chris Coleman, I’d like him to stay, but we’ll muddle through somehow (and, you never know, may even prosper) if he goes.

  4. HarryKirtley'sGhost says:

    Thanks for your considered response Paul.
    Just a couple of things I need to clarify…
    I have always regarded myself as British first, and Welsh second.
    So I don’t really feel too rotten about myself at my delight in seeing the late Panamanian equaliser. When I was ten years old, I would have cried real tears at that setback at the death…not any more.
    And I feel pretty much the same on the Wales rugby team. I really want both to stuff England and the really big countries, but when the Wales egg-chasers play say, Japan – or more topically Georgia – then I support the minnows.
    Interestingly there is only one team I do not want the opposition to score against, and that is why I post on MAYA …and not on a Man U or Chelsea fanzine.

    As for Cookie…it has just been announced he has got the Sunderland job. Ha! I feel totally vindicated in my comments. He was clearly hiding behind “helping get better job security” for his assistants, before signing a contract. It stood out a country mile to me. Even Stevie Wonder could see his cunning.

    Bet he is disappointed it was not Everton though. They’d have paid him a couple of million a year more…and how he would have just LOVED the chance to stand tall and look across Stanley Park at “Kloppo”.

    But no doubt he will be on a seven figure salary on Wearside. With the promise of a lot more if he gets them promoted.

    No danger of that, but his man management is very good and he will avoid relegation with ease, methinks.

    But he has no real tactical nous, alas. I said as much in your pages when he succeeded Gary Speed. He will perhaps now be succeeded by Ryan Giggs: and if so, I am more optimistic than most. My hunch is that Giggs has more about him tactically, but I would doubt if he can match Cookie’s outstanding ability to give his men such a sound collective sense of identity.

    Btw, I stand by my comments on the Danish manager. He seems to me to be twice the coach that O’Neill and Coleman are…put together…!!

    I watched both those Danish games all the way through…and it was evident in the first leg that the Danes found ways through that seemingly impenetrable defence that Wales could only have DREAMT of. Wonderful switches of the play with long diagonal balls.
    And Schmeichel not afraid to kick the ball long.

    And as for O’Neill’s near nervous breakdown in the second half: he took the two holding players off only after the Danes had taken the lead…and only then was when Eriksen suddenly found all that space. And it was the inspirational tactics of their Norwegian manager that had helped the Danes weather that early storm.

    Anyway Paul, I will sign off. I just wish football managers would not take us for duffers with their base manoeuvres to jockey themselves into positions for jobs. How more honest it would have been for Chris to say “I cannot give my allegiance to my country just yet…for I am waiting on a possible mega pay day coming my way”.

    My bovine faeces detector was on “high alert” when he came out with all that cobblers about looking after his backroom team.

    Pass the sick bag, Alice.

    And WalesOnline …please get some reporters who have the testicular fortitude to ask the tough questions and call B.S. just what it is.

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